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Precision Divergence Finder for NinjaTrader 8 with video examples.

Background of the Precision Divergence Finder operations

The Precision Divergence Finder Indicator was designed by Roger Medcalf to accurately identify divergences between Demand Index and price.

These divergences ALWAYS occur at a new low price. It is therefore advised to wait for some strength to appear before buying these dips.

Such a method is defined in the combos page where more than one product is used to created entry and exit signals.

When a divergence is pure and simple, huge rewards are possible plus the added satisfaction of buying very near the low of the week

On the other hand when one of these signals fail, it often heralds a continuation of a sharp drop in price. Using a stop loss therefore is ESSENTIAL.

The Precision Divergence Finder for NinjaTrader 8 is a simple to use indicator, which can benefit a expert and a beginner. Video examples below show how it plots

Interpretation of the Precision Divergence Finder Indicator

The Precision Divergence Finder Indicator tells you in real time if Demand Index is not making a new low when the price is making a new low.

What does this mean? Why is it so significant?

This is a good indication of institutional patient accumulation of the market while the public continues selling and panicking.

It really is that simple. The examples below show how to trade these events.

Why is Demand Index used to measure divergences?  Simply put this wizard of an indicator does a better job than most to find professional buying just as its creator Mr James Sibbet

intended it to do. It was always a favourite of mine as it is like having an inside track as to what is going on.

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The videos below show the detection of professionals accumulating stock on insider knowledge followed by big price increases- NO SOUND NEEDED.

General signs of buying often appear in messy groups rather than in the precise the low of the move. Some careful interpretation is needed and risk management is vital.

This video below demonstrates a more precise set of signals on a more normal stock with bigger market capitalisation.

Some signals went a bit lower after occuring which shows why stop losses must be used, as not all the signals go flying up... but of course many do go flying up too.

Generally speaking a stop loss of between 3 - 5 x average true range is a good place to start. EG Use 100 period ATR then multiply by 3 to 5.

Using longer periods of average true range will help to normalise the volatility so that stops are closer in value than if a shorter length of 20 atr is used.

Remember if a divergence fails, it is often a sign that the down trend will continue lower as the buyers who caused the divergence will be cutting losses.

The video shows a good bunch of trades which occur in the dips contained in a long term up trend.

 

 

In the image below the Precision Divergence Finder is shown on intra-day futres

In a 60 minute time frame some good signals often occur in the spiky price action that futures demonstrate:

Notice the read is 1 on the shot below. Higher numbers indicator the number of divergences found on each bar. Maximum = 20 but that is rare.

High values of 10-15 are very rare

Precision Divergence Finder on real-time data can also be effective

Image below shows PTS-Divergence Buy Finder on Cocoa futures, somewhat of an amazing signal as it was the only one in three years of data.

The beautiful rally is still continuing today on Feb 21st 2024, two years later!

 

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Some good questions answered below in the FAQ

Does the Precision Divergence Finder work on futures and stocks in real time?

Yes, the Precision Divergence finder works in any time frame and on any chart type, tick, minute, renko, daily or weekly etc.

Although it can give some good signals on shorter time frame data, generally speaking intra-day signals are always less reliable than signal generated in longer time frame samples.

For example, you can see a hundred double tops and head and shoulders in a tick chart of a busy market every single day, but these are very insignificant in comparison to a head and shoulders occurring in a daily or weekly chart.

As with all signals in technical analysis the rarer the signal, the more significant it becomes.



If I don't like the product can I get a refund?

Precision trading systems has a 30 day money back guarantee on all products.

See conditions below.

Refunds will be given for the following reasons.

1. If a bug - error is found that cannot be fixed within 7 working days of a report being sent to Precision trading systems. (The 7 working day limit, does not apply if we are on vacation )

2. If you don't report any problem within 30 days of purchase you cannot claim your refund.

3. I have been using this for many years without any problems. So be please assured its reliable and accurate.

Please note:

Screenshots need to be provided for initial response and by remote pc access for the proof if it is required.

And a thorough description of what happened when you experience the error.



Does the Precision Divergence Finder work on tick volume or only actual trade volume?

Yes, the Precision Divergence finder works on both tick volume and trade volume, but frankly speaking I would not trust it when used on tick volume as the whole purpose of DI, is to reveal which direction big volume trades are place in.

Tick volume counts the ticks, it does not record when someone buys ten thousand contracts which would show a massive move in the underlying Demand Index indicator and thus give the Precision Divergence Finder something to look at.

E.G.

If someone bought 1,000,000 shares in a stock, it would only show as 1 tick up on tick volume analysis, but on actual volume data, you will likely see a large rise in the value of Demand Index, which in turn would be intercepted by the algorithms contained in the Precision Divergence Finder causing it to give a reading if a divergence was evident.

Do you understand me? I ask this because if the answer is no, then I dont want to sell this product to you.



Does the Precision Divergence Finder work on static end of day data? ( Not real-time )

Yes, static AND real-time data it works. Please see the chart examples above. ( I will post some more real-time examples soon)



Do you provide a Precision Divergence Finder that shows a bearish divergence for sell signals?

No, the Precision Divergence finder only issues buy signals when there is a bullish divergence. The explanation is rather complex...

I did code up the bearish equivalent of this product, and noted the behaviour of bullish and bearish divergences were very different, while it may seem to be a symmetrical equation it actually is not. Market psychology during peaks and troughs are very un-symmetrical in their nature and market tops are the result of the polar opposite emotions of fear - greed - euphoria.

It is often said that tops sneak up on us without fair warning, and this is very true. Market bottoms generally display much lower levels of volatility and this is due to investor expectations being much more conservative with less hope of success. (The attitude would be, XYZ stock is low at the moment, maybe I will start quietly buying a few and take my chances, as opposed to the euphoric excitable view of ...wow this stock is flying up, I must get these before I miss out on the huge profit chance) Frequently the 2nd scenario is followed rapidly by "buyers remorse" and "feeling stupid" and hence causes a wave of panic selling.

Furthermore, the Demand Index code while being an utterly superb piece of work by Mr James Sibbett, it just does not lend itself to handling panic selling and high volatility situations, I have spent many long hours pouring though the code for DI, as well as the code for my Divergence Indicator and have not found a way of altering it to provide good sell signals without jeopardising the excellent qualities of its buy signals.

Unfortunately, the sell signal ( bearish divergences ) of demand index are not as effective, and I never used it in my trading as it gives many fake signals during up trends which renders it useless. Sure there will be big divergences at most tops, but these cant be given validity because of the plethora of fake signals on the way up to the tops.

I never sell anything on my site which does not deliver good trading results.

It was a long answer, but it had to be explained.

In FOREX does this PDF work?

Yes it works but as traditional volume storage is not the same in Forex versus stocks and futures the Demand index is operating on different information so is not quite as good.

The fascination with forex amongst traders is a mystery to me as the only good thing is the tiny spreads, this "advantage" is destroyed by the similar "disadvantage" of tiny profits caused by tiny volatility.

Maybe you ought to do the maths and compare risk reward ratios of forex versus futures of indices and stocks instead.

The settings used for Precision Divergence Finder

1. DE is short for Demand Index. So this value refers to its length.

2. Diff refers to the difference between its reading now and x bars back from the current bar.

You can experiement with different lengths of DI and the longer it is the smaller the diff value needed.

In some cases diff = 0.25 or 0.5 etc will be the only one that shows up divergences.

If you use a short length of Demand Index say 10 or 20 then larger differences can be used as the indicator is more volatile.

Read more about Demand Index here after purchasing this so you understand deeply how it operates.

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Supporting NinjaTrader, Tradestation and MultiCharts. Some of this history is shown on the testimonials page.

 

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